EDH Optimizer
Thancred Waters
Legendary Creature — Human Warrior · 4W
Color identity: White
Thancred Waters is white: its deck can only run cards of that color plus colorless ones.
Rules text:
Flash
Royal Guard — When Thancred Waters enters, another target legendary permanent you control gains indestructible for as long as you control Thancred Waters.
Whenever you cast a noncreature spell, Thancred Waters gains indestructible until end of turn.
Reference price of the card: €0.20
Comes in the precon Scions & Spellcraft
Average lands in decks for Thancred Waters: 36
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The list people actually play per EDHREC (the 99 most-included cards, with its average land count), simulated with the EDH Optimizer engine: hands, mulligans, lands, curve and commander. It does not model opponents; it measures whether the plan gets going.
Deck health of the average list: C+ (62/100)
- Consistency19
- Speed53
- Interaction87
- Resilience79
- Closing67
See the cards of the average deck · 99 cards, 36 lands (12 nonbasic, 24 Plains)
Swords to Plowshares · Sol Ring · Arcane Signet · Path to Exile · Pearl Medallion · Reprieve · The Wind Crystal · Venat, Heart of Hydaelyn // Hydaelyn, the Mothercrystal · Rosa, Resolute White Mage · Ghostly Prison · Loran of the Third Path · Wrath of God · Elena, Turk Recruit · Ephemerate · Flowering of the White Tree · Restoration Magic · Adeline, Resplendent Cathar · Mangara, the Diplomat · Odric, Lunarch Marshal · Bastion Protector · Dancer's Chakrams · Cleansing Nova · Fumigate · Phelia, Exuberant Shepherd · Swiftfoot Boots · Thalia, Heretic Cathar · Vanquish the Horde · Akroma's Will · Cloudshift · Generous Gift · Odric, Master Tactician · Oketra's Monument · Tataru Taru · Aerith Gainsborough · Austere Command · Blackblade Reforged · Day of Judgment · Elesh Norn, Mother of Machines · Enlightened Tutor · Archaeomancer's Map · Caduceus, Staff of Hermes · Gandalf the White · Shadowspear · Anafenza, Kin-Tree Spirit · Authority of the Consuls · Cloud, Midgar Mercenary · Conjurer's Closet · Esper Sentinel · Gilraen, Dúnedain Protector · Secret Rendezvous · Stroke of Midnight · Ultimate Magic: Holy · Urza's Ruinous Blast · Land Tax · Linden, the Steadfast Queen · Sun Titan · Basilisk Collar · Cut a Deal · Excalibur, Sword of Eden · Flicker of Fate · Grand Abolisher · Mass Calcify · Witch Enchanter // Witch-Blessed Meadow · Minas Tirith · Rogue's Passage · Emeria, the Sky Ruin · Reliquary Tower · War Room · Ishgard, the Holy See // Faith & Grief · Myriad Landscape · Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx · Castle Ardenvale · Monumental Henge · Eiganjo, Seat of the Empire · Hall of Heliod's Generosity
🃏 Recommended cards for Thancred Waters
The highest-synergy cards in decks for Thancred Waters, with their inclusion rate.
| Card | Inclusion | Synergy |
|---|---|---|
| Venat, Heart of Hydaelyn | 56% | +53% |
| Rosa, Resolute White Mage | 52% | +49% |
| Elena, Turk Recruit | 47% | +45% |
| Dancer's Chakrams | 42% | +41% |
| Odric, Lunarch Marshal | 44% | +38% |
| The Wind Crystal | 58% | +37% |
| Adeline, Resplendent Cathar | 45% | +36% |
| Reprieve | 58% | +35% |
| Flowering of the White Tree | 47% | +35% |
| Minas Tirith | 62% | +35% |
| Wrath of God | 49% | +35% |
| Ephemerate | 47% | +34% |
| Phelia, Exuberant Shepherd | 40% | +34% |
| Restoration Magic | 46% | +34% |
| Tataru Taru | 38% | +33% |
| Fumigate | 40% | +32% |
| Cleansing Nova | 40% | +32% |
| Aerith Gainsborough | 36% | +31% |
| Odric, Master Tactician | 38% | +31% |
| Gandalf the White | 33% | +30% |
| Thalia, Heretic Cathar | 40% | +30% |
| Bastion Protector | 42% | +30% |
| Gilraen, Dúnedain Protector | 31% | +29% |
| Vanquish the Horde | 40% | +29% |
💰 The best cards for your Thancred Waters deck, by budget
Three tiers based on the maximum price PER CARD you are willing to pay. Paste your list and hit Optimize: you pick that cap and the AI only suggests swaps that fit under it.
Tier 1 · Budget up to €2/card
The most value for almost nothing. Coming from a precon? Start here.
- Rosa, Resolute White Mage
- Elena, Turk Recruit
- Dancer's Chakrams
- Odric, Lunarch Marshal
- Reprieve
- Wrath of God
Tier 2 · Balanced up to €10/card
The real step up: pieces that are no longer cheap but still sensible.
- The Wind Crystal
- Adeline, Resplendent Cathar
- Flowering of the White Tree
- Minas Tirith
- Ephemerate
- Phelia, Exuberant Shepherd
Tier 3 · No cap no cap
The cards your price cap was hiding from you.
- Elesh Norn, Mother of Machines
- Cloud, Midgar Mercenary
- Excalibur, Sword of Eden
- Shadowspear
- Summon: Knights of Round
- Akroma's Will
Reference prices (cheapest English printing). They change daily.
♾️ Known combos with Thancred Waters
- Restoration Angel + Felidar Guardian → Infinite ETB, Infinite LTB
- Preston, the Vanisher + Felidar Guardian + Ephemerate → Infinite ETB, Infinite LTB, Infinite creature tokens, Infinite landfall triggers, Infinite blinking of permanents, Infinite mana lands you control that enter the battlefield untapped can produce, Exile all nonland permanents opponents control, Infinite mana lands you control can produce
- Approach of the Second Sun + Reprieve → Win the game
- Abdel Adrian, Gorion's Ward + Restoration Angel + Ephemerate → Infinite creature tokens, Infinite ETB, Infinite LTB, Infinite blinking of nonland permanents
- Abdel Adrian, Gorion's Ward + Felidar Guardian + Ephemerate → Infinite creature tokens, Infinite ETB, Infinite LTB, Infinite blinking of nonland permanents
- Abdel Adrian, Gorion's Ward + Restoration Angel + Cloudshift → Infinite creature tokens, Infinite ETB, Infinite LTB, Infinite blinking of nonland permanents
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Frequently asked questions
What is Thancred Waters's color identity?
Thancred Waters is white: its deck can only run cards of that color plus colorless ones. Color identity comes from every mana symbol on the card, including those in the rules text, not just the casting cost.
What turn does Thancred Waters come down, and how often does the deck get stuck?
In the average Thancred Waters deck (the 99 most-included cards per EDHREC, with 36 lands), simulated 4,000 times, the commander comes down on turn 5.0 on average and is on the battlefield before turn 7 in 95 % of games. It misses at least one land drop in the first six turns 33 % of the time and floods 35 %. Deck health: C+ (62/100).
How many lands should a Thancred Waters deck run?
Real Thancred Waters decks run 36 lands on average. That is a starting point, not a rule: a lower curve can shave one or two, big-mana builds want more. The EDH Optimizer simulator tells you, over 10,000 games, how often you get mana screwed or flooded with your exact count.
What are the best cards for Thancred Waters?
The three highest-synergy cards are Venat, Heart of Hydaelyn, Rosa, Resolute White Mage, Elena, Turk Recruit. This page lists the top 24 with their real inclusion rate in Thancred Waters decks.
What combos does Thancred Waters have?
Thancred Waters has 6 known combos. The most popular one is Restoration Angel + Felidar Guardian. Note that two-card combos raise your deck's bracket, so it is worth knowing which ones you are running before you sit down.
How much does a Thancred Waters deck cost?
You can start cheap: Rosa, Resolute White Mage, Elena, Turk Recruit, Dancer's Chakrams are under €2 each. The "Level up" section on this page splits the best cards into three price caps PER CARD (up to €2, up to €10 and no cap), and the optimizer only suggests swaps that fit the cap you pick.