EDH Optimizer
Joven
Legendary Creature — Human Rogue · 3RR
Color identity: Red
Joven is red: its deck can only run cards of that color plus colorless ones.
Rules text:
{R}{R}{R}, {T}: Destroy target noncreature artifact.
Reference price of the card: €0.18
Average lands in decks for Joven: 35
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Build your Joven deck step by step, with in-depth analysis and AI optimization of your list.
🛠️ Build a deck for Joven 📥 Analyze my deck🎲 How the average Joven deck starts over 4,000 games
The list people actually play per EDHREC (the 99 most-included cards, with its average land count), simulated with the EDH Optimizer engine: hands, mulligans, lands, curve and commander. It does not model opponents; it measures whether the plan gets going.
Deck health of the average list: C+ (63/100)
- Consistency66
- Speed48
- Interaction68
- Resilience92
- Closing55
See the cards of the average deck · 99 cards, 35 lands (6 nonbasic, 29 Mountain)
Sol Ring · Chandler · Arcane Signet · Chaos Warp · Liquimetal Coating · Liquimetal Torque · Vandalblast · Mycosynth Lattice · Abrade · Ruby Medallion · Hellkite Tyrant · Blasphemous Act · Faithless Looting · Fire Diamond · Aladdin · Solemn Simulacrum · Mind Stone · Big Score · Myr Retriever · Thrill of Possibility · Mana Geyser · Iron Myr · Treasure Nabber · Lightning Bolt · Daretti, Scrap Savant · Goblin Welder · Blood Moon · Foundry Inspector · Gamble · Goblin Engineer · Ichor Wellspring · Seething Song · Etali, Primal Storm · Red Elemental Blast · Scrap Trawler · Sculpting Steel · Unexpected Windfall · Viashino Heretic · Cathartic Reunion · Cursed Mirror · Jeska's Will · Joven's Tools · Karn, the Great Creator · Lightning Greaves · Tormenting Voice · Burnished Hart · By Force · Demand Answers · Myr Landshaper · Swiftfoot Boots · Thran Dynamo · Deflecting Swat · Wayfarer's Bauble · Anger · Fellwar Stone · Shattering Spree · Pyroblast · Reckless Fireweaver · Reckless Handling · Gorilla Shaman · Starke of Rath · Wurmcoil Engine · Jhoira's Familiar · Magus of the Wheel · Great Furnace · Buried Ruin · Forgotten Cave · Myriad Landscape · Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle · Darksteel Citadel
🃏 Recommended cards for Joven
The highest-synergy cards in decks for Joven, with their inclusion rate.
| Card | Inclusion | Synergy |
|---|---|---|
| Chandler | 66% | +66% |
| Liquimetal Coating | 49% | +47% |
| Mycosynth Lattice | 45% | +43% |
| Aladdin | 39% | +39% |
| Liquimetal Torque | 49% | +36% |
| Myr Retriever | 36% | +33% |
| Hellkite Tyrant | 41% | +30% |
| Daretti, Scrap Savant | 32% | +27% |
| Viashino Heretic | 25% | +24% |
| Ichor Wellspring | 27% | +24% |
| Foundry Inspector | 30% | +24% |
| Joven's Tools | 24% | +24% |
| Goblin Welder | 32% | +24% |
| Treasure Nabber | 34% | +23% |
| Scrap Trawler | 25% | +22% |
| Myr Landshaper | 21% | +21% |
| Karn, the Great Creator | 23% | +21% |
| Iron Myr | 34% | +21% |
| Sculpting Steel | 25% | +20% |
| Goblin Engineer | 29% | +20% |
| By Force | 21% | +19% |
| Great Furnace | 31% | +19% |
| Solemn Simulacrum | 39% | +18% |
| Starke of Rath | 17% | +17% |
💰 The best cards for your Joven deck, by budget
Three tiers based on the maximum price PER CARD you are willing to pay. Paste your list and hit Optimize: you pick that cap and the AI only suggests swaps that fit under it.
Tier 1 · Budget up to €2/card
The most value for almost nothing. Coming from a precon? Start here.
- Chandler
- Liquimetal Coating
- Aladdin
- Myr Retriever
- Daretti, Scrap Savant
- Viashino Heretic
Tier 2 · Balanced up to €10/card
The real step up: pieces that are no longer cheap but still sensible.
- Liquimetal Torque
- Hellkite Tyrant
- Karn, the Great Creator
- Goblin Engineer
- Great Furnace
- Wurmcoil Engine
Tier 3 · No cap no cap
The cards your price cap was hiding from you.
- Mycosynth Lattice
- Goblin Welder
- Unwinding Clock
- Inventors' Fair
- Darksteel Forge
- Gamble
Reference prices (cheapest English printing). They change daily.
♾️ Known combos with Joven
- Underworld Breach + Lion's Eye Diamond + Wheel of Fortune → Infinite draw triggers, Infinite looting, Infinite looting for opponents, Near-infinite storm count
- Underworld Breach + Wheel of Fortune + Jeska's Will → Infinite draw triggers for all players, Infinite looting for all players, Near-infinite magecraft triggers, Near-infinite storm count
- Dualcaster Mage + Twinflame → Infinite creature LTB, Infinite creature ETB, Infinite creature tokens with haste, Infinite magecraft triggers
- Basalt Monolith + Forsaken Monument → Infinite colorless mana
- Underworld Breach + Grinding Station → Infinite self-mill, Near-infinite storm count, Near-infinite mana among colors of legendary creatures and planeswalkers you control
- Blasphemous Act + Repercussion → Near-infinite damage to all players
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Frequently asked questions
What is Joven's color identity?
Joven is red: its deck can only run cards of that color plus colorless ones. Color identity comes from every mana symbol on the card, including those in the rules text, not just the casting cost.
What turn does Joven come down, and how often does the deck get stuck?
In the average Joven deck (the 99 most-included cards per EDHREC, with 35 lands), simulated 4,000 times, the commander comes down on turn 4.7 on average and is on the battlefield before turn 7 in 98 % of games. It misses at least one land drop in the first six turns 23 % of the time and floods 18 %. Deck health: C+ (63/100).
How many lands should a Joven deck run?
Real Joven decks run 35 lands on average. That is a starting point, not a rule: a lower curve can shave one or two, big-mana builds want more. The EDH Optimizer simulator tells you, over 10,000 games, how often you get mana screwed or flooded with your exact count.
What are the best cards for Joven?
The three highest-synergy cards are Chandler, Liquimetal Coating, Mycosynth Lattice. This page lists the top 24 with their real inclusion rate in Joven decks.
What combos does Joven have?
Joven has 6 known combos. The most popular one is Underworld Breach + Lion's Eye Diamond + Wheel of Fortune. Note that two-card combos raise your deck's bracket, so it is worth knowing which ones you are running before you sit down.
How much does a Joven deck cost?
You can start cheap: Chandler, Liquimetal Coating, Aladdin are under €2 each. The "Level up" section on this page splits the best cards into three price caps PER CARD (up to €2, up to €10 and no cap), and the optimizer only suggests swaps that fit the cap you pick.